July 24, 2011

Open Thread

Apologies to readers who saw my erroneous post about Woody Harrelson's death. It turns out that he is very much alive. Thank you to Angry Exile and Ravengrim for letting me know the report was a fake.

I wonder at the sanity of those who post fake death reports. Is it ever funny? I like to think that I have a highly developed sense of humour but that report did not make me smile. Not at all. Particularly during such a horrific weekend where needless slaughter, train crashes and sleb overdoses dominate the news.

Mini rant over.

If you have anything on your minds, or a story you would like me to cover, please let me know.

Not sure what is going to happen in the US as they are stalemated in their attempt to find a solution to their economic woes, and, nearer to home, it appears that we have been conned over the latest euro bail out.

The floor is yours.



Span Ows said...

Maybe should be a comment on the "Labour Scum" post but these snippets are interesting: Guardian and others blaming all sorts...but by the same token forgetting to mention the shooter admired Obama:


It is not the role of any journalists to attempt to “define” the mindset of a mass-killer by trying to score political points against groups and people they dislike.

Then there's this that rips Guardian/BBC/etc a new one:


"Right-wing Christian or Media FAIRY TALE?"

Sue said...

I wondered why it wasn't on the news. Strange people about aren't there?

Anonymous said...

Sky saying 6 arrested in connection with Norway attacks!!!

I had a feeling 2011 was going to be a crazy year.

North African revolutions.
Euro / Bailout
America on verge of default
Norway attacks

You should read his manifesto. He is beyond anything we have seen before in European terrorism.

What is going to happen next?

Oh, and some Junkie died.

Anonymous said...

Makes you wonder what goes through the heads of these mindless idiots. In other news..... The chief executive of Orange resigned!

"According to the company Tom Alexander has resigned for personal reasons and to pursue other interests. He will continue to advise the company until the end of the year.

Alexander joined Orange UK in 2008 as chief executive and became head of Everything Everywhere when the company was formed on 1 July 2010 from the merger of Orange and T-Mobile UK."

What struck me about this story is that this guy resigned later on the same day as Sir Paul Stephenson (Met Police commissioner) resigned over the mobile phone hacking scandal. Not sure if its a coincidence but smells a little on the fishy side.



Gordon the Fence Post Tortoise said...


you're right to latch on to this. The extent of the toxic collusion between the phone companies and the media hasn't been addressed at all - the technical details of how phones are "hacked" has been very deliberately obfuscated.

How did journos get the numbers?
How did journos record mobile conversations?
How did journos get billing info?
How did journos get location info?

and more...

The answer is obvious. Trouble is, will the dolts asking the questions cotton on? On past performances I doubt it... - if they do - I'm going to try and get a seat and stock up on popcorn.

Anonymous said...

Hi Cap'n,

I saw your earlier post about Woody's death and then wondered, why was it there was no report in the MSM about it, yet Amy was plastered all over the place (no pun intended)?

It's odd why some blogger would post the death of someone. It's a sick and twisted mind that would do something like that.


Captain Ranty said...


Thanks for both links. I went, I watched, I read.

Both are excellent viewpoints that should be more widely read/seen.

They play us like marionnettes, don't they?


Captain Ranty said...


It didn't surprise me at the time. The news about Amy broke on Twitter long before the MSM got stuck in, so I assumed this was another breaking story.

Normally I double-check before posting but I was full of red wine.


Captain Ranty said...

Anon 12:56

And we are only halfway throught the year!

I think we have many shocks heading our way before we open our Xmas prezzies...


Captain Ranty said...


I stopped believing in coincidences some time ago. Something fishy going on there.

All we have to do is wait.

The dirty laundry will be aired.


Captain Ranty said...


I tried, but I couldn't understand that sort of humour.

It was/is pathetic.


Angry Exile said...

Yep, Cap'n, it was weird, that site. It seemed like a template that you could just put in a name, location and some fictitious details to make it seem more plausible... and why? Fuck knows. I just can't understand why anyone would waste the oxygen required to type it out. Not just unfunny but inexplicable.

Anonymous said...

I fully agree with you, the more I think about it, the more it all fits in to place and Murdoch is like the edges and corners to the jigsaw puzzle. Thw full picture is taking shape nicely.

I'm finding all this very disturbing and wierdly entertaining because they are all slowly getting over their heads in their own bullshit. I said to friends that we don't know how deep this hole goes and as things seems to be settling down,i.e they try and feed us some more bullshit through MSM something else crops up.

I'm waiting with my fags, beer and popcorn. Not sure if I should get some bonfire toffee for the firework display.

I hope Murdoch realises he's being stiched up by his fellow vile and corrupt politicians and blows the lid off the whole thing.


Anonymous said...

Gordon tFPT,

The problem with society is that our elites gave us the computer with which to totally control us. Whereas everything before was handwritten/typed on a typewriter and sent through the mail, it's now on a computer. Data isn't stored in cabinets but on disks. And the easy way to stop that from happening to gain even more control over people is to create clouds...
Whereas in the past we'd meet and discuss in a pub, mobile phones are now brought everywhere. People depend on them and today, when I go out I see women (mostly) clutching onto them for dear life. They simply have to be in touch with people 24/7. Add to that the fact that facebook and twitter are also used on phones then there you go. People are very happy to give away every bit of personal information at the drop of a hat.
We now have voting in the USA done by computer, easily controlled again.

I own a mobile phone, a cheap one (£5) that is an alarm clock. The only time it's on is when I'm setting the alarm. I don't carry it with me and never have conversations/texts on it. So technically speaking I don't use a mobile phone and I'm very careful what I say over the landline, even though it's ex directory.

We rely too much on technology today to live our lives and people are paying for it as a direct result.
If I need to see people, I'll pop down the local. I rarely use my telephone and very few people have my number. And I'm 40, not 70 as people may think for my dislike in technology, which is ironic as I've grown up with computers, programming, web design, video games etc etc, but I know the dangers of the technological world and won't partake within it.

The sooner people give up their dependency upon technology the better as far as I'm concerned. It's a drug that people have to ween themselves off of. If your landline is hacked and conversations recorded, when you're ex directory, then it means the phone company has a lot of answering to do and knows that a trip into the court room would mean hefty fines.

It's time to take back the society from those who wish to control it. This is an individual process that all must do.


Gordon the Fence Post Tortoise said...

Aye, Harbinger valid points.

I suppose that my take on it is that corruption in the issue. There are laws and we employ people at public expense to to enforce those laws.

The phone companies have distinguished themselves by a level of dishonesty and sharp business practice that sets them apart from the run of the mill thieving corporates - inventing a whole set of business "paradigms" known collectively as "Tariff Hell" and taking speculative billing to previously undreamed of heights as well as wholly criminal activities regarding stolen phones.

My gripe - if that's what it is - is that the dunderheads aren't asking the right questions. Sure, a few dopey people leave the PIN code of their answerphone machine at default - but that's the only and utterly limp explanation I've heard touted (©Piers Morgan)

It's clear to me that the number finding, phone intercept and tracking has been organised on a quite industrial scale. Thousands of people have been eavesdropped and it's not rational to attribute that to a few rogue techies...

One police force near me was being charged £100 a pop for a legitimate mobile call log, £25 for a reverse mobile number lookup (£250K a year)now... if that was a hooky job?

There's a stink coming from all this - the police seem disinclined to volunteer much - I wonder about ANPR data and DVLA.

I'm sure there's laws against these sorts of things - but we seem to have arrived at a situation where the enforcers are part of the problem.

In the olden days they'd have maybe sent the organisers of the snooping to the rack to wring out the details... I have some sympathy with that approach when it comes to this sort of snooping.

As it stands - call logs, emails, security logs will be winking out of existence all over the place.

Modern communications technology can be a boon and a curse, it should be treated with respect - it can bite.

Anonymous said...

Thoughtless comment I made.

Escaping into the land of dreams is sometimes difficult. Even with the help of the firewater.

I hope you accept my most humble appology.


Snakey said...

Thought you might be interested in this:


Written by Fred Rodell, Professor of Law at Yale University, written in 1939.

Anonymous said...

More a general comment on tech than what Harbinger and Gordon TFPT were saying specifically, but anyway:

Tech liberates when we control it, it enslaves when others control it. Enslavement is presented as liberation; the cloud is buzzspeak designed to appeal to the mass market. The idea that disks are obsolete because it's all "out there" (waves hands at sky vaguely) is of course bollocks; data is still on disks, just those of Google, Apple, Amazon etc instead. How long before you have to be licensed to purchase such things? But the cloud is "kewl" and "shiny" and "syncs" everything across your iWotsits and look at the freebies you get!

There is no privacy or security. As Micro$oft admitted recently, cloud providers are subject to the Patriot Act if they have data centres outside US soil. All your data are belong to us. (At least, the stuff you haven't already given to the CIA by pimping yourself on Farcebook.) There’s also the recent issue with Dropbox. And that every govt database has been hacked, lost, stolen or mislaid.

Screw your lock-ins, my data is mine and it’s staying within my four walls, thanks very much.

iDave wants us to use social networks to access govt services (nothing to do with corporate influence on govt, of course). This is a more worrying development because it will result in removal of such services from "normal" means of access and a requirement to be online to use them, and increased corporate control. Voluntary at the start, mandatory at the end. "Government issued identification" will be required, which is what ID Assurance is intended for. ID card without a card.

And our illustrious govt wants to “help” everyone get online, don’t they? Other govts even “help” you forcibly. (Angry Exile may know more about this.)

The easiest way to be secure is to be offline entirely. Yet things have reached a point where for most people it is practically impossible or unfathomable to be offline. You are connected all the time and if you're not then it's suspicious; you are "out there" these days and if you're not then you're weird. I'm not "out there" (at least not identifiably so), and I'm considerably weird, so maybe there is truth to that. ;)

Security/privacy are possible but take effort, but most people don't even think there’s an issue. That is the greatest success of the likes of Google and FB and the rest: the fact that most people don't seem to care about privacy any more, and are willing to surrender it cheaply. And because of this you "must" give away enormous amounts of personal info for even the most mundane things, until of course you start questioning why. The generations to come won't have any inkling of privacy. It is already considered tradable.

Technology may yet be their downfall. It has the ability to stay ahead, they don't quite get some of it. Google and its All Seeing Eye can be overcome. But before then we may need to practice a separation of the public and the private. This is, of course, what happens during all tyrannies. Depressing, pessimistic, yes, but possibly necessary if change is to be effected.

Or enough of us can say “no”. I’d happily opt out of the lot, provided they don’t hassle me afterwards. Chances of that?