Today our Glorious Leader, Kim Jong Cam trots off to "bargain hard" with the EU monster.
We know that he will do no such thing. What we do know is that he is going commando today and he has left his belt at home. This will make it easier for the leader of The Stupid Club to get CMD's pants down and shaft Britain once more.
There is much talk of the vaunted Article 50 contained in the Lisbon Treaty. Article 50 says that we can leave, but only if all the other EU members agree. Marvelous.
Nigel Farage writes in The Sun today and gives us a prediction or two.
Here's a snippet:
"Any agreement needs to get the go-ahead from all the other countries in the
EU.
It would be like trying to have an amicable divorce with 26 ex-partners who
all blame you for their problems — partners who cost you £50million a day,
by the way.
They are not going to send us home with a box of Belgian chocolates and a
bottle of French red.
At the very best, Mr Cameron will arrive back from Brussels, cheeks flushed
with victory, telling us we’re just in the “single market” now and that
means trade — nothing more, nothing less.
The single market cripples British businesses.
The single market is responsible for all those health and safety regulations
and environmental directives that this newspaper has campaigned against for
years"
If you are a dyed in the wool Tory, and you expect great things from this man I have three words for you:
Lower your expectations.
The very best thing we can do is repeal ECA 1972. A simple vote, a stroke of the pen, and the nightmare ends. The practicalities will take a little longer to sort out, but I have noticed that demolition is faster than construction. We are more than capable of clearing up afterwards.
With our sovereignty restored in full, we can trade with the new powerhouses of the world-China, India, Brazil- without interference from The Stupid Club. We will continue to trade with our European friends, but without 100 (metric) tons of red tape in the way.
This is what 62% of the nation wants. This is what 70% of the Tory Party wants. Of course, now that he is sat on the throne, Kim Jong Cam thinks he knows best. He has, typically, gone stone deaf since receiving the keys to Number 10. This deafness has caused the Tory faithful to depart in massive numbers. At least one third have dumped their membership. They feel disillusioned, duped and disappointed. They are right to feel that way.
If the man lets us down today he is no less a traitor than that bastard Heath who fooled the nation in 1972.
CR.
21 comments:
"If you are a dyed in the wool Tory, "
You should be seeking psychiatric help.
Anonymous said...
"If you are a dyed in the wool Tory, "
You should be seeking psychiatric help.
Along with the Liebour and LibDum supporters.
Thing is lads, they talked a good game back in 2010.
We could not go on with labour ruining the country and in they came, on white steeds, promising all sorts.
The lying bastards.
No referendum, no "Great Repeal",no closing down the quangos (we have six new ones to add to the pile now) no "smaller government", even more snooping and interference than ever before, even more legislation shat out than Labour could dream of....
But, certain people would have us believe that voting helps.
My arse.
CR.
The problem is Ranty that the political class don't want us out.
With ever more draconian surveillance and ever growing financial impositions we are building up to a political class versus the people situation (if we're not already there)
We are heading toward an impasse - it's going to get messy.
"Captain Ranty said...
Thing is lads, they talked a good game back in 2010.
We could not go on with labour ruining the country and in they came, on white steeds, promising all sorts.
The lying bastards.
No referendum, no "Great Repeal",no closing down the quangos (we have six new ones to add to the pile now) no "smaller government", even more snooping and interference than ever before, even more legislation shat out than Labour could dream of....
My arse."
Not much more to be said really, desperate to be rid of probably the worse, most meddlesome, most deceitful govt in living memory, I too fell for it (as it happened Labour retained the seat).
Once bitten, twice shy, if there is an answer, it is not with the current crop of in-it-for-themselves, bare-faced lying career-politicians that infest and multiply.
The answer is simple really. Less is more... less tax, less regulation, less lawmaking, less political/social engineering, less complication, less interference, and less contempt for the people who actually put their trust in them.
Everything seems totally corrupted.
200 nuclear warheads say we can leave the EU whenever we want.
With such a valuable market, other nations will still trade with us, whatever the EU says.
BJ,
I think we got there some time ago.
The impasse you mention is racing towards us. I agree that it will get ugly.
CR.
Tinks,
I really wish I had written this sentence;
"The answer is simple really. Less is more... less tax, less regulation, less lawmaking, less political/social engineering, less complication, less interference, and less contempt for the people who actually put their trust in them."
It captures it all perfectly.
Can you remember a time in (recent) history when so many loathed so few but couldn't be arsed to leave the sofa to do anything about it?
I am as disappointed in the people as I am in those that should know better in their positions of power.
The abuse is endemic.
CR.
Anon,
I don't believe we ever joined the EU legally so walking away should be a piece of cake.
We can keep those nukes for a day when we need them to defend the nation, although, I pray fervently that they are never, ever needed.
CR.
The only thing they are bargaining about is how good a seat on the EU gravy train our elitists get when they give our country and private property away to the New World Order.
An American friend of mine Renee Nal posted an article on UN Agenda 21, a plan discuseed at Rio that involves setting up a global government and abolishing private property. Maurice Strong is a big player in this. Any problems getting into gather, let me know and I'll mail you a copy of the article.
There is also a pdf of the detailed plan Review of implementation of Agenda 21 and the Rio Principles
I don't have time to blog this at the moment so I'm trying to get the word out.
Guys--after reading many of the bloggs and comments there-on,i just came to the conclusion(again!) that all the actions being carried out by the various brave individuals will be met by ignorance/apathy/unlawfulness etc.etc.(i tend to agree a lot with harbinger on our chances of success).I want to suggest a different approach that will take a lot of work but will be more in line with the way these criminals work--the" democratic " approach.IMHO we need to take figures to these people and give them an ultimatum--change(back to the ways we as the people want) or we'll govern ourselves.In other words--we'll conduct our own online poll/referendum/election on the state of affairs by a well laid-out website with all the relevant information on why and how we're going to do it.NUMBERS will determine the success,but i believe,if done well,accurately, and factually,people may be inclined to put their support behind it.Obviously it is too big a project to explain here,but i can see possible success if we for instance go to tptb and tell them--here's a list of X million people that want to change to a new dispensation-either you do it or we will determine our own fate,and create our own system.Please give your input.I think we can do it
It would be like trying to have an amicable divorce with 26 ex-partners who all blame you for their problems — partners who cost you £50million a day, by the way.
In a nutshell. Do you think iDave has any notion he can make a difference or is he playacting?
@ ianrthorpe
I apologise if you've already encountered this in your research, but you haven't you may want to see this map of the US, which is what Agenda 21 would like to do under the guise of the Wildlands Project, in the name of "sustainable development" and "biodiversity".
'Tis all about perpetual balance with nature.
Chapter 11 of "Environmental Policy and Biodiversity" (ed. R. Edward Grumbine, 1994) is titled "The Wildlands Project: Land Conservation Strategy" and is written by Reed Noss, one of the founders. It contains this quite remarkable line (emphasis mine):
"I would offer a more ambitious long-term goal, pending human population reduction, that at least 95 percent of a region be managed as wilderness and surrounding multiple-use wildlands."
Noss is referred to here (in jest?) as "more restrained" than others. (The above quote is in that link, but not the source.)
This is what they wish to do with settlements. Some US states are passing measures against Agenda 21 - the Gather article mentions Alabama but Kansas, Tennessee and Texas are apparently looking into it. (That link is also a decent summary as to how Agenda 21 has been implemented without being ratified.)
Local authority corporations here in the UK also have Agenda 21 policies. "Localism" is a Coagulation buzzword, for it allows implementation of certain directives.
It isn't just about private property though - if you want to see sustainability used as indoctrination via the public fool system, read this. For example, smart people are a threat:
“Generally, more highly educated people, who have higher incomes, consume more resources than poorly educated people, who tend to have lower incomes. In this case, more education increases the threat to sustainability.”
Education must thus be reorientated:
“Reorienting education to address sustainability is something that should occur throughout the formal education system."
The things you would expect - perhaps, for example, how to read/write, how to think critically - are excised:
“The challenge for communities in the process of creating ESD curriculums will be to select knowledge that will support their sustainability goals. An accompanying challenge will be to let go of those topics that have been successfully taught for years but are no longer relevant.”
You get chaff about "consensus" where 2+2 can equal 5.
And this on the roles played by NGOs, fake charities and the MSM:
“The nonformal educational sector (e.g., nature centers, nongovernmental organizations, public health educators, and agricultural extension agents) and the informal educational sector (e.g., local television, newspaper, and radio) of the educational community must work cooperatively with the formal educational sector for the education of people in all generations and walks of life.”
However, that stuff - even though 10 years old – can be seen as a reflection of what has been going on for a long time. See this post by James Higham at Orphans of Liberty.
I see in the document you linked to they wrote an Agenda 21 "scorecard"; most of the results were either yellow or red, so obviously things need to "keep going".
They would say that, wouldn't they?! :-D
Regards
TSL
Lying politicians are liars.
"This deafness has caused the Tory faithful to depart in massive numbers. At least one third have dumped their membership."
I remember when Fawkes posted that last week, It was a case of, well, LMFAO... :-D
Poor old Cameroid even got booed at the tennis, apparently. He can't even skive off without heaps of opprobrium any more.
Regards
TSL
if voting made `any`difference it would be banned.
you have the illusion of choice,but the agenda just keeps marching on.
wot ianrthorpe said. Cameron is simply waiting his turn on the EU/NWO gravy train alongside the Kinnocks, Blairs and Mandelson with their unexplained millions.
Much as I want out, as do you, I have to ask:
"Article 50 says that we can leave, but only if all the other EU members agree."
Err, where?
"The very best thing we can do is repeal ECA 1972. A simple vote, a stroke of the pen, and the nightmare ends."
Err, 'fraid not - we would still be bound by a legal agreement we signed. We are likewise bound under the Vienna Convention on Treaties.
Agreed that we were hoodwinked and lied to by Heath and that there are undoubted grounds to anul the ToL, but due process must be followed.
If you are a dyed in the wool Tory, and you expect great things from this man I have three words for you:
Lower your expectations.
That my dear fellow, would be an impossibility.
WfW
Err, 'fraid not - we would still be bound by a legal agreement we signed..
That conflicts with the commonly held belief that no government can bind a successor. If that is indeed a false premis then we are in deeper shit than I ever thought possible!
@SO'H:
Fine, repeal the ECA, it means squat diddly in international law. Don't forget that you are still bound by a legal treaty which was signed and to whose clauses you are duty bound to comply. You are also bound by the Vienna Convention on Treaties.
It may well be possible to argue that the treaty was signed under false pretences in that we the people were lied to by our politicians, although what defense that has in the legal world I know not. I suspect that the answer would be that in electing our representatives we granted them the power to act on our behalf....
No Parliament may ever bind its successor is nearer the truth. Since there is no such thing as a Parliament any more just an EU gold plate rubber stamp process devoid of accountability...
WFW et all WE did not sign anything. A politician and some civil servants sign treaties. It's a joke to believe that they are signing on 'behalf of the people' because they give the people a vote.
Every election I can revcall the majority didn't vote for the government and yet the group in power claim to represnt the majority because they claim they have a mandate.
It's coercion wrapped up in manipulation covered by obfuscation so is perfectly in keeping with the ideals of the colleagues in Brussels.
It must be clear by now that the party system folks and the civil service folks do not see themselves as 'the people'.
We the people simply have to walk away from the EU by not playing their silly games any more on whatever level the individual feels slightly uncomfortable with. Going through a democratic process to change things would work but we live upon the British Isles where democracy doesn't exist.
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