Here there be rants. There will be Freeman stuff, Lawful Rebellion stuff and Random stuff. I am rebelling because I want my country back. My lawful obligations are as follows: “together with the community of the whole realm, distrain and distress us in all possible ways, namely, by seizing our castles, lands, possessions, and in any other way they can, until redress has been obtained as they see fit…”
Article 61 Magna Carta 1215
Even with the Internet, resistance seems so futile. we have to keep trying, of course. You will also recall OR's conversion came about just a few weeks into blogging. It is arguable that the people of The Middle east are leading the way.
Was very interested in the statement that the City of London is in effect a private corporation, sitting outside of UK law. Haven't heard that before - can anyone point me to more information on this?
mescalito Blogger truncates all URL's. It's a pain in the arse!
Chemtrails are real. All you have to do is look up on aclear day and you will see some aircraft trailing long white tails and some trailing very short white tails.
What I cannot understand is why there are no pictures of the spray equipment and no whistle blowing pictures from the people who maintain the aircraft.
Still the links on here may help. Something for the weekend perhaps!!
"What I cannot understand is why there are no pictures of the spray equipment and no whistle blowing pictures from the people who maintain the aircraft."
That did occur to me but I have yet to see an credible explanation of why two aircraft on the same flight path one following the other produce very different trails.
There has to be a reason for the difference there always is and deliberate spraying of something is as plausible as it gets, at least for now.
There is a video from a Chilean F-15 following a commercial jet which shows sprays being switched on and then switched off again. I know such things can be faked but.. I'll see if I can dig out the link.
William - I've seen the link, it's jettisoning fuel IMO. As for the different lengths of contrails, the air is at different temperatures/densities at different heights. The flight-path may be the same, but different altitudes are assigned by ATC to aircraft on the same flight path - I believe the separation is 1 vertical mile or 5 horizontal miles, within the same airway. Now, as for CIVIL airliners, as you correctly suspect there would be too many links in the chain for such a practice to remain hidden. Ground/flight engineers, pilots, ATC, load controllers, fuellers, etc etc. There may well be specialised military or government aircraft which spray the populace, but piggy-backing spray equipment onto commercial airliners is - in my opinion, which is far from uninformed - impossible. A chemical could in theory be mixed in with the fuel, but then again the fuellers test the fuel regularly.
I know cheming has been done and probably still is but it's never been done from a commercial airliner because its simply impossible to do.
You'd have no space or spare take of weight for your passengers, unless you could add it to the fuel and somehow have enough active ingredient survive the temps and pressure of the turbine core, even then you couldn't have enough to be usefull before your fuel ceased to be fuel.
William I think I've seen the clip you refer to and while it is definitely chemming its not a commercial airliner its military tanker KC 767 (militarized version of the passenger plane)the only supposed photo's of the equipment I've ever been able to find (believe me I have looked) turned out to be the basalt systems for airliner test flights to simulate weight and distribution of passengers.
I'd be willing to bet just about all those trails you see in the sky are contrails they look different to each other because of the different temps pressures and humidity levels, it can be very lumpy up there we've all flown through turbulence and thin air right.
I'm not trying to say it doesn't happen just that it's not every contrail you see, besides imo its a silly inefficient way to do it think about it, if your only targeting people why spray everything from tens of thousands of feet up when you can just add to water, foods, vaccines etc etc.
Lost - quite right. If you want to see some real chemical adulteration of the populace, look up the ingredients in wet-wipes. The main one increases skin absorbtion, and the others are linked to various health problems including infertillity.
Richard, yes fuel dump before landing is a possibility, but if its the same clip I'm thinking of that's a hell of a lot o fuel to be dumping, something could of gone wrong with the mission (not as many thirsty birds as they thought).
However most aircraft dump fuel from nearer the wing tip away from the engine nestles, the clip I remember had specialised nozzles close to the engines but it was a military version so not impossible by any means.
NB - apart from differing densities of air in an airway, if the aircraft you saw were of differing types, their differing engines may produce different contrails.
I think I've had too much gin! I've just watched the video (seen it before, but think it's well worth several looks) and as far as I remember there was not one mention of chemtrails and yet here we are debating it - isn't the internet great?
Like 'Ranty' I haven't spent too much time looking at this but a while ago I did download a video on the subject which, until now I haven't had time too watch, (I will do this weekend!).
The video is called 'What in the World are they spraying'. For those, like me, who haven't watched it the link is here.
It's a good video CR. It speaks alot of truths and it's frightening when one realises that we are all slaves, debt slaves, working for a super elite who don't work and live off our hard work. When you try and explain this to people they always just say - "that's the way it is", happy to accept their servitude.
I sent you an email a couple of weeks ago. I don't know if you got it. Hope all is well.
I never received it! Lol. Looked in the spam and it wasn't there. I know you most certainly replied if you said you did, but somewhere along the transit from your computer to mine, it got waylaid. Resend it if you will.
You did send it to the yahoo account that I posted it from? If you sent it to my googlemail account then I won't have got it because I've been banned from using Google. LOL
"What the hell's a bloodline got to do with anything....."
Are you for real? I tell you what shall I? How about reading some of the works of some famous British psychopaths such as Bertrand Russell, HG Wells, the Huxleys etc etc and you'll see that they view the elites as those families who have kept and maintained their power, thus granting them the right to control and rule over one and all. The interbreeding with the elites families in this world, means that the wealth (and what they believe) and intelligence remains.
Bloodlines have everything to do with reality and those who are obviously oblivious to it, are people such as you who like to throw the word 'conspiracy theory' around, in order to make everyone believe that the rogering up their arse by the elites, isn't a rogering at all, just conspiracy and paranoia.
It's best that you remove yourself from the real world because it's clear that your living in the false one. I mean, conspiracy theory...well I never...just a bunch of loonies eh, you know, those people desperately trying to wake everyone up, through no benefit to themselves whatsoever other than having to put up with mountains of abuse from people, like, well, yourself.
Well spent the weekend looking into 'trails' and I am non the wiser. As with most things there is conspiracy, pure bullshit, lies, misinformation and among it must be the truth but buggered if I can find it.
There does seem to be an awful lot of deliberate debunking of chem trail evidence which once you stand back and compare to the smoking bullshit and especially the cannabis bullshit there are similarities in all three 'arguments' but I have ended up sitting on the chem/con fence.
Something untoward appears to be going on in the skies but appearances may be deceptive!
I've been reading alot about Chemtrails and HAARP lately.
ReplyDeleteThe Tap often posts some very interesting stuff on these controversial theories.
I used to think they were "conspiracy theories" but I'm not sure anymore.
The most frightening site by far that I have found is called AIRCRAP.ORG
Take a look and tell me what you think.
Sue,
ReplyDeleteI haven't given this subject much airtime because I wasn't entirely convinced.
But the evidence seems to be stacking up.
Conspiracy it may be, but it is no longer a theory.
I'll check out the site, thanks.
CR.
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ReplyDeletegood vid, from a good site: http://thecrowhouse.com/
ReplyDeleteboth the BBC and the Guardian have reported on chemtrails...nuff said :)
ReplyDeletehttp://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/1516880.stm
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2002/apr/21/uk.medicalscience
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ReplyDeletefor some reason its cutting off the last few letters of the link, so just add nce so it spells science and away you go :)
ReplyDeleteEven with the Internet, resistance seems so futile. we have to keep trying, of course. You will also recall OR's conversion came about just a few weeks into blogging.
ReplyDeleteIt is arguable that the people of The Middle east are leading the way.
Was very interested in the statement that the City of London is in effect a private corporation, sitting outside of UK law. Haven't heard that before - can anyone point me to more information on this?
ReplyDeletemescalito
ReplyDeleteBlogger truncates all URL's. It's a pain in the arse!
Chemtrails are real. All you have to do is look up on aclear day and you will see some aircraft trailing long white tails and some trailing very short white tails.
What I cannot understand is why there are no pictures of the spray equipment and no whistle blowing pictures from the people who maintain the aircraft.
Still the links on here may help. Something for the weekend perhaps!!
"What I cannot understand is why there are no pictures of the spray equipment and no whistle blowing pictures from the people who maintain the aircraft."
ReplyDeleteBecause it isn't there?
Because it isn't there?
ReplyDeleteThat did occur to me but I have yet to see an credible explanation of why two aircraft on the same flight path one following the other produce very different trails.
There has to be a reason for the difference there always is and deliberate spraying of something is as plausible as it gets, at least for now.
There is a video from a Chilean F-15 following a commercial jet which shows sprays being switched on and then switched off again. I know such things can be faked but..
I'll see if I can dig out the link.
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ReplyDeletethere are images of the equipment around.
ReplyDeletethere is also a list of the equipment patents here: http://www.getoutofdebtfree.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=26377
then go here: http://www.uspto.gov/patents/process/search/index.jsp
do a patent number search and you will get to see some of the diagrams of the equipment
Go to the BBC link provided above by Mescalito. There you will see a photograph of a cloud seeder taken in 1952.
ReplyDeleteTry searching 'ENMOD Treaty'. Why would there be a treaty dealing with weather weapons if they didn't exist?
whats going on, i keep posting but they disappear???
ReplyDeleteMesc,
ReplyDeleteThey went in the spambucket for some reason. I have released them!
CR.
cheers ranty man :)
ReplyDeletethere are images of the equipment around.
ReplyDeletethere is also a list of the equipment patents here: http://www.getoutofdebtfree.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=26377
then go here: http://www.uspto.gov/patents/process/search/index.jsp
do a patent number search and you will get to see some of the
Manu,
ReplyDeleteThere's quite alot of stuff here
Should keep you busy for a while :)
William - I've seen the link, it's jettisoning fuel IMO. As for the different lengths of contrails, the air is at different temperatures/densities at different heights. The flight-path may be the same, but different altitudes are assigned by ATC to aircraft on the same flight path - I believe the separation is 1 vertical mile or 5 horizontal miles, within the same airway. Now, as for CIVIL airliners, as you correctly suspect there would be too many links in the chain for such a practice to remain hidden. Ground/flight engineers, pilots, ATC, load controllers, fuellers, etc etc. There may well be specialised military or government aircraft which spray the populace, but piggy-backing spray equipment onto commercial airliners is - in my opinion, which is far from uninformed - impossible. A chemical could in theory be mixed in with the fuel, but then again the fuellers test the fuel regularly.
ReplyDeleteI know cheming has been done and probably still is but it's never been done from a commercial airliner because its simply impossible to do.
ReplyDeleteYou'd have no space or spare take of weight for your passengers, unless you could add it to the fuel and somehow have enough active ingredient survive the temps and pressure of the turbine core, even then you couldn't have enough to be usefull before your fuel ceased to be fuel.
William I think I've seen the clip you refer to and while it is definitely chemming its not a commercial airliner its military tanker KC 767 (militarized version of the passenger plane)the only supposed photo's of the equipment I've ever been able to find (believe me I have looked) turned out to be the basalt systems for airliner test flights to simulate weight and distribution of passengers.
I'd be willing to bet just about all those trails you see in the sky are contrails they look different to each other because of the different temps pressures and humidity levels, it can be very lumpy up there we've all flown through turbulence and thin air right.
I'm not trying to say it doesn't happen just that it's not every contrail you see, besides imo its a silly inefficient way to do it think about it, if your only targeting people why spray everything from tens of thousands of feet up when you can just add to water, foods, vaccines etc etc.
Just my 2p
Always happy to be proved wrong!
Lost
Lost - quite right. If you want to see some real chemical adulteration of the populace, look up the ingredients in wet-wipes. The main one increases skin absorbtion, and the others are linked to various health problems including infertillity.
ReplyDeleteRichard, yes fuel dump before landing is a possibility, but if its the same clip I'm thinking of that's a hell of a lot o fuel to be dumping, something could of gone wrong with the mission (not as many thirsty birds as they thought).
ReplyDeleteHowever most aircraft dump fuel from nearer the wing tip away from the engine nestles, the clip I remember had specialised nozzles close to the engines but it was a military version so not impossible by any means.
Thats 4p
Lost
Wet wipes! I'll look for that cheers Richard.
ReplyDeleteLost
NB - apart from differing densities of air in an airway, if the aircraft you saw were of differing types, their differing engines may produce different contrails.
ReplyDeleteI think I've had too much gin! I've just watched the video (seen it before, but think it's well worth several looks) and as far as I remember there was not one mention of chemtrails and yet here we are debating it - isn't the internet great?
ReplyDeleteLike 'Ranty' I haven't spent too much time looking at this but a while ago I did download a video on the subject which, until now I haven't had time too watch, (I will do this weekend!).
The video is called 'What in the World are they spraying'. For those, like me, who haven't watched it the link is here.
Maybe then we can all debate it?
read the BBC and the Guardian report...
ReplyDeletethey are not hiding the fact that they are spraying they are telling you...
nuff said :)
It's beginning to come out into the open now. Gratifying at last.
ReplyDeleteIt's a good video CR. It speaks alot of truths and it's frightening when one realises that we are all slaves, debt slaves, working for a super elite who don't work and live off our hard work. When you try and explain this to people they always just say - "that's the way it is", happy to accept their servitude.
ReplyDeleteI sent you an email a couple of weeks ago. I don't know if you got it. Hope all is well.
Harbinger
The film freezes--both sound and picture at 15.05 and re-starts at 17.35.
ReplyDeleteIt does this on your site and on Old Righty's link.
Why? Who is controlling what I watch and hear?
Sinister
H,
ReplyDeleteNot only did I get your email, I replied to it.
Am I sat, gathering dust, in your spambox?
CR.
Rev. Douglas James Cottrell PhD examines chemtrails
ReplyDeletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cE09uZ-6tZ0
Hi Cap'n,
ReplyDeleteI never received it! Lol. Looked in the spam and it wasn't there. I know you most certainly replied if you said you did, but somewhere along the transit from your computer to mine, it got waylaid. Resend it if you will.
All the best
Harbinger
P.S.
ReplyDeleteYou did send it to the yahoo account that I posted it from? If you sent it to my googlemail account then I won't have got it because I've been banned from using Google. LOL
Harbinger
The film freezes--both sound and picture at 15.05 and re-starts at 17.35.
ReplyDeleteIt does this on your site and on Old Righty's link.
Why? Who is controlling what I watch and hear?
Sinister
Don't believe a word of this - or at least the first few minutes - what the hell's a bloodline got to do with anything - even if true.
ReplyDeleteJust another paranoid conspiracy theory
Styx,
ReplyDelete"What the hell's a bloodline got to do with anything....."
Are you for real?
I tell you what shall I? How about reading some of the works of some famous British psychopaths such as Bertrand Russell, HG Wells, the Huxleys etc etc and you'll see that they view the elites as those families who have kept and maintained their power, thus granting them the right to control and rule over one and all. The interbreeding with the elites families in this world, means that the wealth (and what they believe) and intelligence remains.
Bloodlines have everything to do with reality and those who are obviously oblivious to it, are people such as you who like to throw the word 'conspiracy theory' around, in order to make everyone believe that the rogering up their arse by the elites, isn't a rogering at all, just conspiracy and paranoia.
It's best that you remove yourself from the real world because it's clear that your living in the false one. I mean, conspiracy theory...well I never...just a bunch of loonies eh, you know, those people desperately trying to wake everyone up, through no benefit to themselves whatsoever other than having to put up with mountains of abuse from people, like, well, yourself.
do your research styx, it will become clear...
ReplyDeleteOT perhaps but does anyone know what's happened to Max F? Can't link to him (them?)
ReplyDeleteTygereye,
ReplyDeleteMax moved house:
http://maxfarquar.blogspot.com/2011/03/max-farquar-is-on-move.html
CR.
Well spent the weekend looking into 'trails' and I am non the wiser.
ReplyDeleteAs with most things there is conspiracy, pure bullshit, lies, misinformation and among it must be the truth but buggered if I can find it.
There does seem to be an awful lot of deliberate debunking of chem trail evidence which once you stand back and compare to the smoking bullshit and especially the cannabis bullshit there are similarities in all three 'arguments' but I have ended up sitting on the chem/con fence.
Something untoward appears to be going on in the skies but appearances may be deceptive!